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This week in science: baobab trees, lizard-inspired building and stretching eyeballs

MARY LOUISE KELLY, HOST:

It is time now for our regular science news roundup with our friends at NPR's Short Wave podcast, Emily Kwong and Regina Barber. Hello, hello, hello to you both.

REGINA BARBER, BYLINE: Hey.

EMILY KWONG, BYLINE: Hey, Mary Louise.

KELLY: All right, so how this works is you bring us an offering - in this case, three science stories that got your attention this week. What are they?

BARBER: May we offer you the origin story of the baobab tree...

KWONG: Safer building construction inspired by lizards.

BARBER: ...And why getting outside from an early age - like, when you're a kid - is good for your eyes?

KELLY: Love it. OK, let's go in order - first up, the origins of the baobab tree, which, aside from being surely the most fun tree to say...

KWONG: Yeah.

KELLY: ...This is - I mean, this is the iconic picture you see on African savannas, right?

KWONG: Yeah, they're so beautiful. It's sometimes called the tree of life. They have these thick trunks, a crown of branches and flowers that only open at twilight. The baobab was the inspiration for Rafiki's tree in "The Lion King."

KELLY: OK, great.

KWONG: And there are actually eight species of baobab adapted for dry climates. They provide food, water and shelter to entire ecosystems, and the trees can also figure heavily into the diets and folklore of the people around them.

KELLY: OK. So the question before us today is the origins of the baobab tree. Why has this been a mystery to scientists?

KWONG: Yeah. For a tree that's important to so many people around the world, they have no fossil record of this tree. And the family tree - like, how they're all related to each other - pointed to three possible places of origin - Australia, Africa and the island of Madagascar. Now, Wan Jun-Nan has loved baobabs since reading about them in "The Little Prince" - yeah, great book. And he now studies them at the Wuhan Botanical Garden at the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

JUN-NAN WAN: When I touched the bark of baobabs, at that time, I decided to get to know the evolutionary history of these special trees.

BARBER: And this week Jun-Nan and a global team of researchers published a study in the journal Nature to pinpoint where baobabs likely came from once and for all.

KELLY: And - drum roll - the answer is...

BARBER: Madagascar.

KELLY: Madagascar.

BARBER: That's another animated movie.

KELLY: Indeed. Why was that so hard to pin down?

BARBER: Yeah. Well, what was missing all these years was a deeper understanding of the baobab genetics. So sequencing technology has gotten better and cheaper, and this allowed Jun-Nan and his team to look at high-quality genomic data from eight known species.

KELLY: Although I have seen baobabs, and I have not been to Madagascar, so we know they spread.

BARBER: Yes.

KELLY: What happened?

KWONG: So they think it was by oceanic currents, which may have picked up the baobab fruit and delivered it to Africa and Australia. But...

KELLY: Cool.

KWONG: Now that sea levels are rising due to climate change, the native range of the baobab is shrinking. These trees cannot survive when submerged in seawater.

BARBER: Yeah. So several baobab species are now endangered, and the habitats of the baobab pollinators, like fruit bats and hawks - they're under threat, too. So Jun-Nan wants ecologists to take these genetic insights and use them in building conservation plans.

KELLY: Fascinating - OK, next story. Gina...

BARBER: Yes.

KELLY: I will start with you - building engineers who are taking tips from lizards.

BARBER: Yes.

KELLY: Go.

BARBER: Yes. So it's a cool innovation to a serious problem - building collapse, like when a building falls down from a natural disaster or just, like, gives way. And this happens all the time.

KELLY: OK. And this has what to do with lizards?

BARBER: Yeah. It's a kind of a plot twist. You know how lizards can sacrifice their tail to save the rest of their body? OK, take that idea. And this team of researchers in Spain thought, you know, what if buildings could do something similar, like if only part of the building were to collapse? That would leave a portion for people to shelter in and get rescued from.

KWONG: Let me give you, like, another analogy to help you visualize what's happening here. So imagine when a conventional building, like, falls. The whole thing collapses like a souffle. But in this type of construction, only one little slice of the souffle deflates.

KELLY: Now I'm totally distracted by thoughts of souffles...

KWONG: Yes.

KELLY: ...The fact that I'm hungry. And I'm also trying to picture how that would actually work if you're not talking about a souffle. You're talking about a building.

KWONG: Right. Yeah. So, I mean, this is - this could really help keep people safe. So usually, in building design, the supports are so interconnected that if a load-bearing column breaks, boom. The whole building comes down. But the team altered those connections and designed the building in such a way that when it started to fall apart, only a part of the building broke.

KELLY: Which sounds hypothetically, very cool. Have they actually tried this in the real world?

BARBER: Yeah. They built a two-story building in Spain, and they loaded it up with so much weight that it would collapse when columns were removed. There's a video of this experiment, actually.

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UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #1: Yeah.

UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #2: Woo (ph).

KWONG: Yeah. You can hear engineers cheering because most of the buildings stayed intact. So one of them cheering is Nirvan Makoond. He's a structural engineer and the lead author on a study about all this out in the journal Nature this week. And he says this idea has been around, especially for, like, bridge design. But this is the first time it's been tested in the context of a full-scale building.

KELLY: Well, and I love hearing that cheering and everything.

BARBER: Yeah.

KELLY: But what would it actually take, do we know, to get this design into building codes actually being used out in the world?

KWONG: Yeah. A change to building codes is a potential risk, so innovation in this industry is slow. But assuming you could get through the red tape, Nirvan said it's something that could be built today.

NIRVAN MAKOOND: Implementing this in an actual construction doesn't require any special or new techniques.

KWONG: Another engineer that didn't work on the study, Sarah Orton - she praised the work, and she said that, if you can get the engineering just right, it could prevent a smaller collapse from turning into something catastrophic.

KELLY: Onwards to our third topic. This is the one I'm really excited about. Spending time outside can protect kids' eyesight. How so?

KWONG: Yeah.

BARBER: Yeah. OK. So our colleague, Maria Godoy, reported earlier this week that spending at least two hours outside each day may help prevent nearsightedness in kids. It's a growing problem in the U.S. and many parts of the world. Forty-two percent of the people in the U.S. are nearsighted, including me.

KELLY: And me.

KWONG: Me, too.

BARBER: Oh, gosh, all of us.

KELLY: Here we are.

BARBER: Yeah. And, like, in the 1970s, it was 25%.

KWONG: Yeah. Research has shown that spending a lot of time looking at things up close, like reading, or, yes, like looking at screens is linked to nearsightedness. And what happens with nearsightedness is that the eyeball stretches out, which changes the way light focuses on the back of the eye, the retina. And the end result is that objects far away look blurry.

KELLY: OK, I'm definitely looking up from my screen to ask the next question, which is...

BARBER: Protect those eyes.

KELLY: Yeah, exactly. Flesh out the idea that - it's just - you go outside. You walk through some grass, touch it. And...

KWONG: And look far, far away.

KELLY: ...So long as you're outside...

KWONG: Yeah.

KELLY: ...This is helpful.

BARBER: Yeah, anything as long as it's outside.

KELLY: Why? Why does being outside matter?

BARBER: So Maria talked to Ian Morgan, an eye researcher at the Australian National University, and he knew from animal studies that sunlight stimulates the eye to release more of the neurotransmitter dopamine. And dopamine can slow the eyeball from stretching.

KWONG: He wanted to see how this might play out in kids. So in 2008, he and his colleagues designed a study looking at over 4,000 6- and 12-year-olds in Sydney, Australia. The kids who spent more time outside were less likely to be nearsighted and, later on, were less likely to develop nearsightedness.

BARBER: And the study caught the attention of doctor Pei-Chang Wu, a eye doctor in Taiwan, where the vast majority of teens are nearsighted by the end of high school. In 2010, he launched a program encouraging all primary schools to send students outside for at least two hours a day, and it helped. After steadily climbing for decades, rates of nearsightedness in Taiwan's elementary schools finally started to fall. So it doesn't matter what you're doing. Just, like, get outside. Enjoy nature. Help your eyes.

KELLY: Sold, 100% sold. Thanks so much to you both.

BARBER: Thank you.

KWONG: Thank you so much.

KELLY: That is Regina Barber and Emily Kwong from our science podcast Short Wave, where you can learn all about new discoveries and everyday mysteries and the science behind the headlines.

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Emily Kwong (she/her) is the reporter for NPR's daily science podcast, Short Wave. The podcast explores new discoveries, everyday mysteries and the science behind the headlines — all in about 10 minutes, Monday through Friday.
Regina G. Barber
Regina G. Barber is Short Wave's Scientist in Residence. She contributes original reporting on STEM and guest hosts the show.